The gun control lobby cannot explain their own proposals

* As expected, even after asking the following question of me: “I’m extremely interested in the logical train of thought behind the positions of someone who supports the poll tax rhetoric.”….to which I obligingly answered, the proprietor of the misnomered anti-gun blog “commongunsense” has decided to not make my reply visible. So of course, I’ll just leave it here:

Constitutional Insurgent says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
I’ll gladly oblige. The proposed taxes on firearms and ammunition are in excess of excise and sales taxes, and designed as a punitive measure to dissuade citizens from purchasing firearms. As to paying for NICs checks…..it would be instructive if you actually explained the enforcement mechanism for said law, before proceeding with by it is equal to a poll tax. That ball is still in your court.
Why do you support taxes on the exercise of your Constitutional rights? These are not State privileges.

Intellectual cowardice. No surprise there. And they wonder why their submissive fealty to the State doesn’t get more legislative [not to mention advocacy group membership] traction.

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I’ve been engaged in a [generally] respectful conversation with the opposing camp at “Commongunsense“, in which I’ve tried to have the gun control advocate explain not only their general support for “universal background checks”, but specifically…..how said law could/would be enforced. The opposing camp merely offered citation of the law and the penalties. And only that again, when pressed. He/she was utterly unable to explain how a transgression of a UBC law would be enforced.

My point in part: without the State knowing who owns which firearms, said State cannot truly enforce a law that requires private sellers to seek out and pay for a NICs check. So I’m left wondering why it is so important for some to support legislation that is nothing more than an honor system.

Most of you will understand where I was going with this. Since the gun control industry has publicly stated, on numerous occasions, that their strategy was incrementalism……we know full well, that a UBC among private transactions, is un-enforcable without a distinct component. Thus, when criminal shootings continue to occur…as criminals will always be able to obtain a firearm….the call will be for the only method to enforce a bad law….registration. The proprietor of “Commongunsense” likely knows this, and all but halted the conversation on this line. But we know better.

Since the gun control industry is composed largely of the left, I found it curious that the radical liberals of decades past, have thoroughly morphed into the very entity they were standing against…..totalitarian statism.

I began to start listing what the gun control industry appears to believe, based upon their statements and actions, to illustrate the obvious deficit of logic, but I’ve decided to make that it’s own post….as, quite obviously….said list would make this an enormous post.

Coming soon.

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10 thoughts on “The gun control lobby cannot explain their own proposals

  1. Since the gun control industry is composed largely of the left, I found it curious that the radical liberals of decades past, have thoroughly morphed into the very entity they were standing against…..totalitarian statism.

    This is rooted in the misguided that a socially tolerant utopia can be the outcome of a socially intolerant state. To them, the state is a catalyst, or a “necessary evil” to reeducate people toward the line of thinking that they desire. Such a process requires a lot of coercion and would fail against people who can defend themselves, which goes right to the core of the disarmament agenda. It’s not about guns, it’s about control.

    Not every leftist would support neo-stalinism, but the gun control industry attracts neo-stalinists like poop attracts flies. The gun control agenda would prove costly to even the leftists, because extremists always have their purges.

    Of course, the left does not have a monopoly on everything. On the right there are “fudds,” as well as a few otherwise conservative people who think that “we should enforce the laws we already have” (forgetting that current gun laws are themselves infringements, which also happen to fail to stop crime anyway).

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    • Good points, but this is where I’m confused. What used to be the crowd of live and let live…..has become the witting agents of a socially ordered gulag.

      It’s not about guns, it’s about control.

      This is, and will always remain, the money shot of gun control. Great final point as well!

      To put the exclamation point on this, here is the most recent exchange at the opposing camp’s site [took a screenshot for good measure]:

      http://commongunsense.me/2015/12/05/guns-kill-babies/#comment-707

      Constitutional Insurgent says: I concur completely with one of your statements above. The only effective method of obtaining your goal of banning firearms…is to repeal the 2nd Amendment. Instead of incrementalism based on fear, rhetorical inventions and ignorance of the populace….why not have the courage of your [the gun control industry] convictions, and seek outright repeal? If you truly believe that only agents of the State should have the power and the tool to adequately protect oneself against the median threat, and victims of violent crime should merely cower and awaiting the response of law enforcement…then seek outright repeal. December 5, 2015 at 3:06 pm Reply

      commongunsense says: You shouldn’t give us ideas. We might just come for your guns tomorrow. I will get a bunch of my friends together and we’ll start with your house. It will be great fun.
      December 5, 2015 at 3:17 pm Reply

      Constitutional Insurgent says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
      I was going to respond to your post on the previous topic, but then I saw you lose your mind here….so I probably won’t bother. And bring it on…..sheep are easy targets.

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      • Good points, but this is where I’m confused. What used to be the crowd of live and let live…..has become the witting agents of a socially ordered gulag.

        I have no idea where that transformation occurred. I guess somewhere along the line, they thought it was an end that justifies the means, though I have no idea why they think the authoritarian state would disappear. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

        It is an irony though, an irony similar to the one where taking guns from people requires people with guns.

        You shouldn’t give us ideas. We might just come for your guns tomorrow. I will get a bunch of my friends together and we’ll start with your house. It will be great fun.

        And that really demonstrates the irony.

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      • And that really demonstrates the irony.

        I’d call it straight up hypocrisy…..and impotent rage. But when you think you have all the answers, and you think that the people are on your side…….impotent rage is often all you’re left with.

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